DAY 3
CHAPTER 14
End of the
Ra Contact
Gary We’ll discuss in detail the events surrounding the attempts at relocating to Atlanta in the personal biography section of Don. In the meantime, this is a question about something discussed in 106.13, the final session of the Ra contact on March 15, 1984. In that session, Ra said:
RA The questioner has, in the recent past, allowed a complete transfer of mental/emotional pain from the questioner to the instrument.
The key to this deleterious working was when the instrument said words to the effect of the meaning that it would be the questioner and be the strong one. The questioner could be as the instrument, small and foolish.
The questioner, in full ignorance of the firm intent of the instrument and not grasping the possibility of any such energy transfer, agreed. These two entities have been as one for a timeless period and have manifested this in your space/time. Thusly, the deleterious working occurred. By agreement in care and caution it may be undone. We urge the attention to thanksgiving and harmony on the part of the questioner. 106.13
Can you describe this incident and why you made this offer to Don?
Carla Well, he was in great distress while we were in Georgia. He couldn’t find any place that was satisfactory, to him, to live, didn’t know what we were going to do next, didn’t know if he wanted to continue the job at Eastern Air Lines.
He was worried that Eastern Air Lines would go into bankruptcy. It took, I don’t know, something like eleven years after Don died, but it did eventually fail.1 And right along the lines that Don thought. He was always right. So the poor guy was just distressed, very distressed, and very uncomfortable. I’d never known him to be so down. He was normally a very affable, even-level, positive guy who took everything very lightly and nothing made any difference; it was all an illusion, and he was just glad he had a private room. He was on top of it.
Well, all of a sudden, he wasn’t on top of anything. The poor guy was just dying, he worried so much, and I was worried for him. So just the way you do, I said, “Look, I’ll take this from you if you’ll just stop worrying. I’ll do the worrying, I’ll be the strong one,” you know, just like Ra said, “You be the small and foolish person that I am,” and Don said, “Oh yeah, right, well let’s do that.”
He didn’t know—we didn’t know that it was going to happen on an inner level, but it did. He became the possessor of my inner sensitivity, my open heart. I was open to everything and I wasn’t afraid of anything, but he wasn’t able to carry the fearlessness, and everything was incredibly moving to him. He would look at a sitcom and he would cry as a result of this switch. His heart had just suddenly opened and he was incredibly ill-prepared to deal with this because his heart had formerly been encased in reinforced concrete. Nothing got to him, whatsoever. So all of a sudden everything was getting to him. So I’d made the situation worse by that offer, not better.
Meanwhile, I got his fear of everything. Don was always very heavily armored. He just thought this world was a dangerous place, and I got that. I was able, for the most part, to ignore that, but that was the situation.
Jim, what am I leaving out?
Jim Well, later Ra mentioned that Don was also going through initiation at the same time. On top of that, Carla, who shared this bond of oneness with Don, had initiated this energy exchange. So that, coupled with the initiation, all made things very, very difficult for Don.
Gary Prior to Ra’s confirmation and explanation regarding what happened, did you feel Don’s fear within you?
Carla I didn’t identify it as such. I felt an increased level of the potential for the taking of things in a way that I would want to be defended against, and that the world was a dangerous place—things I’d never felt before. But I didn’t identify it as that I’d actually received Don’s inner mental bias.
Jim The whirlpool activity was an expression of it.
Carla Well, that one night, I got stuck in a very hot whirlpool for too long before I could get somebody to help me out of it. I couldn’t personally get out of it. I was way down and I was so light that I would bob in the whirlpool [laughs], and so I had weights around my waist (the kind that divers use) and I was right there: I was grounded in this neck-high whirlpool, and it was really close to bubbling into my nose at all times, and I got really, really dizzy. So when I got out of it, I went psychotic for a little while. I don’t remember much about it except that I felt like a cornered animal, and I was ready to charge anybody that got in my way.
Gary And this was subsequent to the deleterious energy transfer?
Jim Yes, the water was too hot for too long, so it put her in a state of shock, and what came out was the feeling that she’d gotten from Don, of his fears, and she went into a psychotic episode which ended as soon as she got back to normal temperature.
Carla As soon as I cooled off, I was able to get my breath back and everything.
Gary For readers, Carla and Jim are describing what Ra talks about here:
QUESTIONER Can you tell me what the instrument’s difficulty was with her last whirlpool?
RA I am Ra. The instrument took on the mental/emotional nature and distortion complex of the questioner as we have previously noted. The instrument has been taking the swirling waters at temperatures which are too hot and at rates of vibration which, when compounded by the heat of the swirling waters,2 bring about the state of light shock as you would call the distortion. The mind complex has inadequate oxygen in this distorted state and is weakened. In this state the instrument, having the questioner’s distortion without the questioner’s strength of the distortion one might liken to the wearing of armor, began to enter into an acute psychotic episode. When the state of shock was past the symptoms disappeared. The potential remains as the empathic identity has not been relinquished, and both the questioner and the instru-ment live as entities in a portion of the mental/emotional complex of the instrument. 106.22
So prior to Ra telling you that you had this deleterious energy working, neither you nor Don knew what happened or could explain the strange feelings you were feeling?
Carla No, it would have been far too bizarre for us to make up. It wouldn’t have occurred to us. Stranger than fiction is the way our lives were for a while.
Gary It was a time of mounting bizarre episodes in your lives.
Just a quick detail question on that: How soon after you made this pact together did you begin to feel the other’s emotions so strongly?
Carla Immediately.
Gary Wow. So, I understand you can only speculate, but, had Don gradually grown into the open heart, gradually had that concrete barrier chipped away, it probably would have been a lot safer for him. Rather than all at once.
Carla A whole lot safer. When you figure what he did, from a larger point of view, at least my personal opinion is, he spent close to 50 of his 50 years working on his service: the answer to why, the filling in of the puzzle pieces, and eventually, the Ra contact. He worked intensively at that and nothing else interested him for his entire life, his entire adult life.
Then he spent less than the last year of his life doing his personal work, which he’d probably come here to do as well, which was to open his heart, to balance a little bit more from wisdom to the open heart. And he opened his heart—snap—like that. And then he had to deal with the consequences of everything pouring in and affecting him.
A brave guy—he did a beautiful job of it. It finally killed him. But he got his work done, and he certainly got his service done. Thank God.
Gary In the same session, Ra said of you and Don that:
RA These two entities have been become as one for a timeless period and have manifested this in your space/time. 106.13
I have a hard time trying to wrap my head around that one. Is there any meaningful way to translate that?
Carla Yeah, what is “a timeless period”? Had we spent some time in the rings of Saturn or something, or in an altered state? I have no idea, I have no idea, I’ve never been able to . . . Jim, you got a clue?
Jim No, not really. I have a hunch that you have a long relationship—the three of us had times before; you and Don, I believe, had a very special relationship for—
Carla What was that one reading sent to him, fifteen lifetimes of service together or something like that.
Jim It’s in the realms of mystery.
Gary I figured as much. I was just wondering if there was any translation to provide.
Carla No, I haven’t ever figured that out.
Ken Could it have been that you guys were together in a social memory complex in a sixth-density unified space for a while then split down here?
Jim It’s possible.
Ken That was the only thing that came to my mind thinking of “timelessness.”
Carla But then that wouldn’t be timeless, though. It would still be in time. You don’t get into timelessness until the end of the seventh density.
Jim Or the beginning of the first.
Carla Or the beginning of the next octave.
Gary Logically the term is a paradox: a timeless period. Period points to the lapsing of time, a beginning and an end.
Carla Yes, it’s completely defying the logical mind. Nothing linear about that.3
Gary In the final question of the Ra contact, Don says:
QUESTIONER And we would certainly—I would certainly appreciate the return of the golden hawk. It gave me great comfort. 106.23
What is the incident to which Don refers?
Jim At the house where we were living outside of Cumming, Georgia, which is about an hour north of Atlanta, there was a hawk—it was in the countryside so there was a lot of wildlife around—but there was a hawk in a tree not too far away, and we had, for some period of time, always associated the hawk with Ra, because Ra eventually took the place of the hawk-headed God of the Sun, Horus, in Egyptian mythology. Don saw this golden hawk—not just an ordinary hawk, with grey wings and a white chest—it was all gold. So he took a lot of comfort from that, thinking perhaps he’d made some sort of a contact with Ra, that he was being visited, or there was support; he just felt comforted by it.4 It was an actual hawk.
Gary That brings up a question I hadn’t built into this interview. The long-standing association of hawks with Ra. That was completely your group’s invention?
Jim That’s what we did.
Carla But it’s historical as well.
Gary I can see why the association was made, I just never understood the genesis of it.
Carla Well, we just noticed hawks a lot after we got together, and we never had seen them before. Even here, for years, we had a hawk that nested right—I guess up over the next neighbor’s door? Overlooking our backyard—raised little hawk families for several years.
Gary It’s an association that started with you guys, but because of your creation of it, has extended beyond you. A lot of people who enjoy this material also now see hawks and Ra as being associated. Myself included, I get excited when I see a hawk.
Carla I’m so glad. [laughs]
Gary And in the final response you received from Ra, just before they closed with their customary salutation, they said:
RA We suggest the nature of all manifestation to be illusory and functional only insofar as the entity turns from shape and shadow to the One. 106.23
What does that statement mean to you?
Jim Well, we live in an illusion of shape and shadow, and eventually it’s up to us to be able to see through it and to see that it’s all part of one being. That whatever we’re looking at, we’re looking at the Creator. If we see anything other than the Creator, then we’re looking at shape and shadow, which is an illusion, and it has a purpose to help us get passed it. Eventually.
Carla Isn’t it a wonderful little phrase? It just puts our humanity right there—the world of shape and shadow and form, physical form—everything that we can see is all illusory. Ra started the contact by saying that we are thoughts.
Gary Dancing thoughts.
Carla Dancing in the somewhat eccentric pattern [laughs] due to our distortion.5 So it’s a very tidy ending to a long conversation.
Gary And puts the scope of the whole human project into perspective.
So, what would you say brought an end to the Ra contact?
Carla Don’s death.
Jim Don’s death.
Gary And I presume that was the same reason why it was never attempted again.
Carla I was dead set against . . . Ra had warned me specifically against calling for Ra if I didn’t have Don and Jim as batteries. It was dangerous to me unless I had Don and Jim. I didn’t have Don. Forget the fact that his scope of ability as questioner went far beyond anyone else I knew or have ever known, I just didn’t have his physical presence, I didn’t have his love. I was not safe and I saw no reason to risk my life if we didn’t have the appropriate way to do it. It was hard enough with everything in place, so if I didn’t have Don I was definitely going down. [laughs] No question about it. And I treasured my little life; I wanted to maintain it and to offer whatever I could. I felt I had more to give.
I had temptations. I had so many people that were very serious about doing whatever, you name it: money, different places to live, different situations that would make it more desirable for me to do this. One guy had a machine that would help me and would take the place of the battery, and all this blah, blah, on and on.
It all just was not appropriate and the only time I had a problem with it was when this one guy was so persistent that it was making me physically ill—the calling and the hounding me—and I can’t remember all that he did. Did he sit out at the airport for a while?
Jim Maybe, I don’t know.
Carla Anyway, I felt like anybody that did that—like I was being stalked. You don’t know how to remove yourself from the situation and make it stop, and you can’t go to the police and say, [laughs] “He wants me to channel.” The police are going to take a very dim view of the whole thing and just tell me to go see a psychiatrist. So I was very glad when he stopped. I don’t know exactly what made him stop.
Gary That’s why I remarked earlier about how amazing it is that you guys were kind of insulated from external influence, that there weren’t people banging down the door trying to interfere in some way, even in what they perceived would be a positive sense. You guys were kind of on your own in that regard. And it was a blessing, I think.
So, had Don not left this plane of existence, would you have continued the Ra sessions indefinitely?
Jim Oh sure. [laughs]
Gary Quite the challenge that would have been.
Do you guys personally have other questions or avenues of inquiry that you would like to have explored with Ra?
Jim Oh, the archetypical mind. We only got through the mind completion, or relative completion. Sure, there are so many things that we didn’t get to. Once your circle of knowledge starts expanding, it touches on more things that you don’t know—questions just keep coming.
Notes
[1] Eastern Air Lines actually declared bankruptcy in 1989, about five years after Don’s passing, and was liquidated in 1991. ↩
“Eastern was one of the ‘Big Four’ domestic airlines created by the Spoils Conferences of 1930, and was headed by World War I flying ace Eddie Rickenbacker in its early years. It had a near monopoly in air travel between New York and Florida from the 1930s until the 1950s and dominated this market for decades afterward. Labor disputes and high debt loads strained the company in the late 1970s and early 1980s under the leadership of former astronaut Frank Borman. . . . After continued labor disputes and a crippling strike in 1989, Eastern ran out of money and was liquidated in 1991.”
Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, s.v. “Eastern Air Lines,” accessed June 16, 2016, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines
[2] When queried about the “swirling waters,” Jim replied: ↩
If you think back a few years ago you may remember this whirlpool tub being next to the sump pump in the basement. It was white and long and rounded. It was about four feet deep and had a seat on one end on which Carla would sit. The controls were at the other end and would control the amount of air that would shoot into the water and cause a turbulence that came out of two jets on each side of the whirlpool. Carla used that whirlpool at the Watterson Trail location during the Ra contact and also over here for a few years afterward. She had to wear weights to hold her down because she floated so easily.
[3] About the issue of existing in timelessness, Ra says: ↩
RA We are not a part of time and, thus, are able to be with you in any of your times. 1.1
Perhaps if Don and Carla were part of those of Ra, they too, then, existed outside of time, as it were. Though we can only speculate. In 45.7 Ra indicates that two of the three are sixth density wanderers; the other a fifth density wanderer. Who came from where and from what density is unknowable; also, unimportant. But great endnote material.
[4] In the process of recording the audiobook for The Ra Contact: Teaching the Law of One, and commenting about that project in The Camelot Journal, Jim wrote for the June 23, 2015 entry: ↩
I finished recording Session 106 of the Ra contact today and noted the irony of Don's mention of the comfort he took in the sighting of a golden hawk at our Lake Lanier, Georgia, house. I have a hunch that it was another messenger from those of Ra sent to wish us all farewell.
The date was March 15, 1984, the Ides of March. Upon hearing that I had finished the recording of the last session Gary asked if I would like to do it again to get a more nearly perfect recording as I had gotten much better after 50 or so sessions. I happily agreed as this has been a most healing experience for me. I have felt the presence of both Don and Carla as I recorded and relived our great adventure together. I noted that the first session in 1981 began on January 15, Martin Luther King's real birthday, a fact I always thought to be most promising.
The Camelot Journal, Jim McCarty, published June 24, 2015, www.bring4th.org
[5] The exact quote: ↩
RA You are not part of a material universe. You are part of a thought.
You are dancing in a ballroom in which there is no material. You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns, for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought. 1.0